Anthropic's Chief on A.I.: ‘We Don’t Know if the Models Are Conscious’

A.I. is evolving fast, and humanity is falling behind. Dario Amodei, the chief executive of Anthropic, has warned about the potential benefits — and real dangers — linked to the speed of that progress. As one of the lords of this technology, is he on the side of the human race? 01:37 - The promise and optimism of A.I. 12:59 - White collar "bloodbaths" 25:09 - Robotics and physical labor 30:16 - The first “dangerous” scenario 42:22 - What if it goes rogue? 48:01 - Claude’s constitution (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Please

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