524 Civilization on the Brink? Trump’s Threat, the Stepdown, and the New Geometry of Power

In one of the most volatile stretches of the Iran conflict, a warning came from President Donald Trump that “a whole civilization will die” if escalation continued, followed by a sudden stepdown into a cease-fire framework. In this episode, we sit down with Ambassador Gordon Gray, Kuwait Professor of Gulf and Arabian Affairs at the George Washington University Elliott School of International Affairs, to unpack how we got there. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at .

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524 Civilization on the Brink? Trump’s Threat, the Stepdown, and the New Geometry of Power is an episode from Target USA Podcast by WTOP by WTOP | Hubbard Radio.

This episode is 00:28:21 long.

This episode was published on Apr 9, 2026.

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