Ep 94 – Motivational Interviewing in Leadership & Organisations (MILO) – Part 2

Episode 94 – MI in Leadership and Organizations – Part 2 Glenn and Seb were excited to bring Jeff Wetherhold, M.Ed . to the podcast to discuss MI in leadership and organizations (MILO) A former behavioral science researcher trained in change management and adult learning, Jeff has spent 20+ years supporting mission-driven organizations through change. Research shows that 88% of organizational change efforts produce no lasting results. The most common reasons center on communication, engagement, and support. Many leaders and managers are never taught how to effectively engage others in change. Jeff helps leaders and staff navigate change together using Motivational Interviewing (MI) as a foundation. He specializes in adapting MI for the challenges they encounter every day. His approach integrates MI with behavioral science, change management, adult learning principles, and evidence-driven communication methods. Jeff has trained thousands of professionals in healthcare, human services, and mission-driven organizations in using MI to engage people who may be skeptical, disengaged, or experiencing change fatigue. Clients include the State of Illinois, the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, the University of Nebraska Medical Center, MIT, and the Institute for Healthcare Delivery Design. Jeff is a board member of Motivational Interviewing in Leadership and Organizations (MILO), a faculty member with the Institute for Healthcare Improvement (IHI), a Prosci Certified Change Practitioner, and a member of the MI Network of Trainers (MINT). He holds a Master’s in Education from Harvard University. Episode Index: 0:00 – Opening and episode introduction 7:37 – Jeff introduction and the challenge of organizational change 13:30 – The importance of relationship within organizations 17:30 – How does change happen within organizations? 23:40 – How we work with “agency”? 28:20 – Leadership can be lonely and how MI can help? 34:20 – An example from the field 43:30 – MI in Leadership and Organizations (MILO) 50:30 – Jeff’s work around “influence with dignity” 53:30 – Differences in training leaders and therapists 58:38 – End of recording Links and contact information: Email: jeff@miforhealth.com Website: LinkedIn: MI in Leadership and Organizations (MILO): Connect with Glenn & Seb 📧 Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 94 – Motivational Interviewing in Leadership & Organisations (MILO) – Part 2 appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants .

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This episode was published on Apr 20, 2026.

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