Tim Cook’s Legacy + The Future of U.B.I. With Andrew Yang + HatGPT

This week, Tim Cook announced he would step down as chief executive of Apple. We discuss what he got right and what he got wrong, and we offer some unsolicited advice for his replacement, John Ternus. Then, Andrew Yang joins us to discuss A.I.-powered job automation and why universal basic income may be making a comeback. And finally, we catch up on more recent tech news with a round of HatGPT. Guest: Andrew Yang , chief executive of Noble Mobile and author of “Hey Yang, Where’s My Thousand Bucks?” Additional Reading: Tim Cook Will Step Down as Apple C.E.O. Who Is John Ternus, Apple’s Low-Profile Leader? Why U.B.I. Is Making a Comeback His 2020 Campaign Message: The Robots Are Coming This Pasta Sauce Wants to Record Your Family Chinese Robot Beats Human Best Time in Half-Marathon, After a Stumble What Happens When A.I. Runs a Store in San Francisco? Meta to Start Capturing Employee Mouse Movements, Keystrokes for A.I. Training Data SpaceX Strikes Deal With Cursor for $60 Billion OpenAI Beefs Up ChatGPT’s Image Generation Model We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok .

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This episode was published on Apr 24, 2026.

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