A.I. Backlash Turns Violent + Kara Swisher on Healthmaxxing + The Zuck Bot Is Coming

This week, amid violent attacks on the homes of the OpenAI chief executive Sam Altman and the Indianapolis councilman Ron Gibson, we debate why artificial intelligence and data centers are so unpopular. Then, Kara Swisher returns to the show to discuss her new docuseries on Silicon Valley’s obsession with living longer. And finally, can chief executives replace themselves with A.I.? Mark Zuckerberg seems to be trying. Guests: Kara Swisher, tech journalist and host of the podcasts “Pivot” and “On With Kara Swisher.” Additional Reading: Shots Fired at Indianapolis Councilman’s Home, After Vote Backing Data Center Man Held in Attack on OpenAI Chief’s Home Had List of A.I. Leaders, Officials Say Kara Swisher Wants to Live Forever Meta Builds A.I. Version of Mark Zuckerberg to Interact With Staff We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok .

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A.I. Backlash Turns Violent + Kara Swisher on Healthmaxxing + The Zuck Bot Is Coming is an episode from Sway by The New York Times.

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This episode was published on Apr 17, 2026.

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