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Sounds of SAND

Science and Nonduality

Sounds of SAND is a podcast from Science and Nonduality which contemplates and reveres the beauty, complexity, pain, and great mystery that weave the infinite cycles of existence. We explore...

Episodes

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Human & Machine Hallucinations: Bayo Akomolafe, Vanessa Andreotti & Alnoor Ladha

What if humans and AI share the same hallucination? In this fifth installment of SAND’s Great AI Unraveling series, Alnoor Ladha hosts a con...

54:41Oct 15, 2026

Our Sacred Earth: Emmanuel Vaughan-Lee

Emmanuel Vaughan-Lee grew up with a Sufi teacher living downstairs and fell in love with jazz at an early age. He is now a Sufi teacher hims...

60:41Oct 8, 2026

Rooted Action: Starhawk & Rae Abileah

Earth, Spirit, and Collective Empowerment Recorded live at a SAND Gathering on September 13, 2026 In a time of profound ecological and socia...

60:07Sep 24, 2026

Nuance of Wonder: Joan Tollifson

Joan Tollifson returns to the podcast three years after her first conversation. We talk about her June essay Two Inseparable Truths, on the...

60:50Sep 17, 2026

AI & Colonial Logic: Christian “ZacaTechO” Ortiz & Thema Monroe-White

Part of SAND’s The Great AI Unraveling Series Artificial intelligence is often framed as a leap forward, a technical revolution, or an inevi...

51:03Sep 10, 2026

The Flow of Coherence: Cynthia Li

Dr. Cynthia Li joins us to talk about her new book, The Medicine of Flow . Trained as an internist, Cynthia developed an autoimmune conditio...

63:29Sep 3, 2026

The Dance of Exile & Settlement: Bayo Akomolafe

Full interview with Dr. Bayo Akomolafe, recorded by SAND founders Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo. Edited portions appear in The Eternal Song ; th...

87:29Aug 27, 2026

The Unbroken Thread: Pir Zia Inayat Khan

Pir Zia on the secret history of the world From a nondual perspective, aren't the world's great spiritual traditions expressions of a single...

62:47Aug 20, 2026

Arborescence: Robert Moor

Robert Moor is a journalist and essayist whose work has appeared in The New Yorker, Harper's, The Atlantic, Emergence, and The New York Time...

57:51Aug 13, 2026

Superfluity of AI: Lyla June, Kathy Wan Povi Sanchez & Ashley Nicole Leitka

The third conversation in "The Great AI Unraveling", recorded live with our community on July 10, 2026. Throughout time, humanity has experi...

75:44Aug 6, 2026

Healing the Soul Wound: Eduardo Duran

Recorded live at our May 2026 online gathering celebrating Little Singer , the Diné film in The Eternal Song series, this conversation with...

64:10Jul 30, 2026

Grow, Become, Love, Alone: Nicole Wordlaw

Clinical psychologist and longtime Buddhist meditator Dr. Nicole Wordlaw joins us to talk about her new memoir, Waking Up Alone: Navigating...

50:26Jul 23, 2026

Songs of Sila: Avianja Rakel Sanimuinaq, Ikimaliq Pikilak & Nuka Alice

Three Kalaallit Inuit women sit with Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo, who met them while filming on their traditional land in Kalaallit Nunaat (Gr...

66:25Jul 16, 2026

Reigniting Indigenous Science: Maceo Carrillo Martinet

Restoration ecologist and author Dr. Maceo Carrillo Martinet joins us to talk about his new book Healing the Land Teaches Us Who We Are: How...

50:10Jul 9, 2026

What Occupation Does to the Soul: Samah Jabr, Gabor Maté, Jennifer Mullan, Facilitated by Jess Ghannam

Global Reverberations of Palestinian Historical Trauma: A SAND Community Gathering with Dr. Samah Jabr, Dr. Gabor Maté & Dr. Jennifer Mullan...

60:42Jul 2, 2026

Animism, Activism & Ancestry: Daniel Foor

Daniel Foor returns to Sounds of SAND for a wide-ranging conversation that moves from his own winding spiritual path to the urgent question...

52:46Jun 25, 2026

Tending the Whole: Nkem Ndefo & Staci K. Haines, Facilitated by Rae Abileah

There is a “false wall” often placed between contemplative life and political action—a story implying that inner peace and outer justice are...

55:15Jun 18, 2026

Sacred Remembering in Times of War: Dr. Jaiya John (Mshkiki Odeh Inini, Medicine Heart Man)

Recorded live at a SAND Community Gathering (April 2026) Hard times are here, we hunger for voices that can see beyond the fear, beyond the...

85:35Jun 11, 2026

Awakening in Times of Collapse: Stephan Bodian

Stephan offers webinars , retreats, videos , books , and spiritual counseling that make profound spiritual teachings and practices accessibl...

40:06Jun 4, 2026

Mysticism of Sound & Music: Michael Harrison (Encore)

We are resharing this episode in memory of Michael Harrison , who passed away on April 17, 2026. He was 67. In this episode, we discuss the...

59:20May 21, 2026