Proto-Epics with Jocko Selberg

This is the first in a series of episodes on software delivery flow. This is a remix on the typical episode format. It features a snippet from my ongoing conversations with my friend Jocko Selberg. Jocko and I discuss the idea of "Proto-Epics" as the artifact that joins the discovery and delivery process. Find Jocko on LinkedIn and check-out his own show the Complexity Lounge on YouTube . (00:00) - Proto-Epics (00:21) - Intro (01:17) - Background (03:37) - Adam & Jocko on Proto-Epics (11:10) - Outro ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Proto-Epics with Jocko Selberg is an episode from Software Delivery in Small Batches by Adam Hawkins.

This episode is 11:56 long.

This episode was published on Jan 5, 2026.

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