The Idiot - Chapter 4

Allen finally agrees to talk … and talk and talk, for 35 hours of interviews. M. wants to understand Allen on his own terms, to try and figure out how this scion of bohemian intellectuals ended up hiring someone to kill his ex. It’s hard for M. to believe everything Allen says, but over the course of their conversations, M. comes to feel for their cousin. And they think they understand what drove him to go so far. Our newest podcast, “The Idiot” is out now. Search for it wherever you get your podcasts. To get full access to this and other Serial Productions and New York Times podcasts on Apple Podcasts and Spotify,

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The Idiot - Chapter 4 is an episode from Serial by Serial Productions & The New York Times.

This episode is 01:02:44 long.

This episode was published on Mar 26, 2026.

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