S10 E6: Understanding assessment, with Melissa Farrall, Ph.D.

In this episode of Science of Reading: The Podcast, Susan Lambert is joined by Affiliated Scholar at the Stern Center for Language and Learning, Melissa Farrall, Ph.D., to discuss understanding assessment. Melissa explains why it's beneficial for every educator to understand the fundamentals of assessment, especially comprehension assessment. Together, Melissa and Susan discuss the relationship between reading comprehension and language comprehension, why reading comprehension can be challenging to assess, and how, in a perfect world, educators would be trained both in the Science of Reading and assessment. Show notes: Submit your questions on comprehension! Access free, high-quality resources at our brand new, companion professional learning page . Connect with Melissa Farrall on LinkedIn . Learn more about Chall's Stages of Reading Development . Read Reading Assessment: Linking Language, Literacy, and Cognition Read The Academic Achievement Challenge: What Really Works in the Classroom Listen to Season 2 of Amplify's Beyond My Years podcast . Join our community Facebook group . Connect with Susan Lambert . Quotes: "My view of reading comprehension is that it is thinking guided by print." —Melissa Farrall, Ph.D. "If we supplement our evaluation with measures of listening comprehension, we can then get a sense of an individual's ability to make meaning." —Melissa Farrall, Ph.D. "In a perfect world, we would have not just evaluators, but educators who are trained both in the Science of Reading and in assessment so that we can all sit at the same table and participate." —Melissa Farrall, Ph.D. Episode Timestamps : 00:00 Introduction: Exploring comprehension assessment, with Melissa Farrall 07:00 The legacy of Jean Chall's research on the developmental stages of reading 10:00 "Reading Assessment: Linking Language, Literacy, and Cognition" 17:00 Comprehension is thinking guided by print 21:00 Different ways of assessing reading comprehension 27:00 Kintsch's construction-integration model 30:00 Word recognition 33:00 Reading comprehension is not easily quantified 38:00 How background knowledge affect the meaning-making process 41:00 The two modalities of language comprehension 45:00 How today's educators might think differently about comprehension instruction 48:00 Closing thoughts *Timestamps are approximate, rounded to nearest minute

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S10 E6: Understanding assessment, with Melissa Farrall, Ph.D. is an episode from Science of Reading: The Podcast by Amplify Education.

This episode is 50:48 long.

This episode was published on Dec 3, 2025.

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