189 – Rescuing the American Project with Nathan Brown and Robert Haglund

Those who identify as pro-immigration and pro-nationalist are often at odds with one another. But what if a healthy dose of nationalism is the very thing that could bolster our immigration? Nathan Brown and Robert Haglund argue in their new book Rescuing the American Project that "much of the dysfunction in contemporary American politics is a consequence of the failure by our elites to understand the crucial relationship between immigration and nationalism." Nathan and Robert join Saving Elephants host Josh Lewis to explore the history and controversy of immigration in America, what the Left and the Right get wrong about immigration, what's meant by "nationalism", and to what degree America's lack of faith in our institutions makes immigration reform challenging. About Nathan Brown From the book Nathan Brown is an immigration lawyer in Fresno, California and a former Republican candidate for Congress. He has a bachelor's degree from Brigham Young University with majors in history and economics and a law degree from Emory University School of Law. About Robert Haglund From the book Robert Haglund is a conservative talk radio producer, former Arabic cryptologic linguist for Air Force Intelligence, and veteran of the War in Afghanistan.

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189 – Rescuing the American Project with Nathan Brown and Robert Haglund is an episode from Saving Elephants | Millennials defending & expressing conservative values by Josh Lewis.

This episode is 55:49 long.

This episode was published on Nov 4, 2025.

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