#407 Carlos 'Ocelote' Rodriguez - Esports, Belief & Refusing to Apologise

Zuby sits down with entrepreneur, esports pioneer, and holistic performance coach Carlos Rodriguez (aka Ocelote) to discuss gaming, spirituality, cancel culture, and the power of belief. The two discuss his journey from being one of the world's best competitive gamers to building the largest company in esports, the viral 2022 controversy that led to him stepping down as CEO of G2 Esports, and why refusing to apologise was the best decision he ever made. They also discuss belief systems, quantum reality, the cost of pure materialism, creation over consumption, and why so many people are trapped in victim mentality. Sponsored by: Veritas Wealth Management helps families, business owners, and retirees build real financial freedom through hands-on expert investment guidance. Schedule a call today at Follow Carlos Rodriguez: Follow Zuby:

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This episode is 64:15 long.

This episode was published on Mar 20, 2026.

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