PAPod 581- Measuring the Invisible: When 'Nothing Happened' Breaks Safety Metrics

Todd Conklin explores why its so difficult to measure events that never happen and how traditional safety metrics can mislead organizations. He argues for focusing on metrics that validate safeguards and create desired outcomes rather than only counting accidents. The episode also touches on automation risks, the limits of frequency-based measures, and the need for better leading indicators and verification practices to keep systems safe even when nothing appears to go wrong.

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PAPod 581- Measuring the Invisible: When 'Nothing Happened' Breaks Safety Metrics is an episode from PreAccident Investigation Podcast by Todd Conklin.

This episode is 18:19 long.

This episode was published on Jan 17, 2026.

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