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Politics with Michelle Grattan

The Conversation

Michelle Grattan, Chief Political Correspondent at The Conversation, talks politics with politicians and experts, from Capital Hill.

Episodes

20 of 668 episodes

Joe Hockey on how Trump would handle defeat in midterms

Joe Hockey, former Australian ambassador to Washington and former treasurer in the Abbott government, is now a founding partner and presiden...

19:50Oct 27, 2026

Ed Husic urges brakes on data centres 'swamping' Australia

The former industry minister said Australia is 'going too fast' and 'been swamped by US tech' building data centres here to dodge growing US...

28:28Oct 21, 2026

Josh Frydenberg's plan to keep speaking out

The former treasurer and deputy Liberal leader said he's still deciding whether to make a political comeback, which he'll announce in the ne...

32:25Oct 13, 2026

Why Victoria's unpredictable election matters nationally

Premier Ben Carroll, Opposition Leader Jess Wilson, One Nation's Colleen Harkin and pollster Tony Barry preview November 28's closely watche...

01:06:31Oct 9, 2026

Tim Wilson says government is borrowing from the future to spend today

The shadow treasurer also blames government spending for inflation and says the Coalition would not 'spend willy-nilly' if elected.

24:33Oct 1, 2026

Jim Chalmers warns rising debt bills are set to hit the budget

The treasurer says there's 'likely to be billions of dollars extra' in higher bills on government debt in December's budget update.

25:50Sep 23, 2026

Matt Canavan on combatting One Nation.

The Nationals leader said he'll do 'whatever it takes' to beat the Labor government – including not ruling out a move to the lower house bef...

21:38Sep 18, 2026

Chris Bowen on co-hosting COP and Australia's renewables target

The environment minister has fought back against criticisms that very few world leaders will attend the pre-COP meeting in the Pacific.

33:27Sep 10, 2026

Sarah Hanson-Young on why progressives need to 'take on' One Nation

The Greens' longest serving federal politician said politics 'isn't working' for ordinary voters and all parties need to do better at addres...

28:35Sep 4, 2026

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Andrew Charlton's warning on data centres' impact on power bills

Speaking before the National Cabinet meeting ended, the cabinet secretary warned household bills are likely to rise if data centres are powe...

25:01Aug 28, 2026

One Nation's David Farley on the migrants his party wants

Farley described One Nation's immigration target as more complex than its official 130,000 figure, estimating about 40,000 more 'rotating' m...

23:38Aug 19, 2026

Sally McManus on how AI could force future cuts to HECS debts and work hours

The outgoing union leader said that beyond the new Victorian royal commission, 'a lot more needs to be done' to fight corruption in construc...

30:28Aug 6, 2026

Bridie O'Donnell on the 'precarious business' of the Tour de France

The ex-champion cyclist turned commentator explains why heat is a growing risk to the annual summer event, and points to some Australian wom...

25:38Jul 30, 2026

Paul Kelly on why Albanese is 'misunderstood' and Taylor needs to stay

In more than 50 years of covering federal politics, The Australian's editor-at-large says he has 'never seen a crisis' like the one facing t...

23:25Jul 24, 2026

Wayne Swan on a 'dramatically different' political contest

The outgoing Labor president explains why no votes can be taken for granted in a time of 'anxiety and insecurity'.

25:50Jul 16, 2026

Andrew Wilkie on the need to go harder to curb gambling advertising

Long-time gambling reform advocate Andrew Wilkie says a reason the government is being timid on the issue is because of close relationships...

26:03Jul 9, 2026

Julian Leeser on fighting an 'explosion' of hate in Australia

The Liberal frontbencher is the opposition’s leading Jewish voice and will soon appear at the royal commission on antisemitism.

30:39Jul 3, 2026

Jenny McAllister on why NDIS reforms are being delayed

The NDIS minister joined the podcast to discuss the government's reforms – and what the changes mean for 160,000 Australians.

28:46Jun 26, 2026

Jonno Duniam on guilt and relief about quitting politics

The departing Liberal frontbencher also said it's 'mad' to be talking about doing deals with One Nation so far from an election. Mentioned i...

41:09Jun 19, 2026

Pollster Simon Welsh on One Nation's rise and Victoria's 'very messy' election

The pollster also warns any move to replace Victorian premier Jacinta Allan before the November state election would be a 'disaster' for Lab...

29:52Jun 11, 2026