Pope's Pushback, Orban's Concession, and Bessent's Anthropic Warning

Kara and Scott break down Trump lashing out against the Pope and right-wing media figures, and his next moves for Iran after peace talks fail. Then, Viktor Orban loses in Hungary, and his concession is a surprising win for democracy. Plus, Eric Swalwell drops out of the California governor’s race and Congress, Scott Bessent warns banks about Anthropic’s Mythos model, and Hollywood heavyweights push back on the Paramount–Warner Bros. deal.Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠.

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Pope's Pushback, Orban's Concession, and Bessent's Anthropic Warning is an episode from Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway by Vox Media Podcast Network.

This episode is 64:30 long.

This episode was published on Apr 14, 2026.

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