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19. Marina Nitze: “If You Googled ‘Business Efficiency Consultant,’ I Was the Only Result.”

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Apr 25, 202600:37:38Society & Culture

At 27— and without a college degree — she was named chief technology officer of the Department of Veterans Affairs. Today, Marina Nitze is trying to reform the foster care system. She tells Steve how she hacked the V.A.’...

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19. Marina Nitze: “If You Googled ‘Business Efficiency Consultant,’ I Was the Only Result.” is an episode from People I (Mostly) Admire by Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher. At 27— and without a college degree — she was named chief technology o...

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At 27— and without a college degree — she was named chief technology officer of the Department of Veterans Affairs. Today, Marina Nitze is trying to reform the foster care system. She tells Steve how she hacked the V.A.’s bureaucracy, opens up about her struggle with Type 1 diabetes, and explains how she was building websites for soap opera stars when she was just 12 years old. This episode originally aired on March 12th, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Published Apr 25, 2026 and 00:37:38 long