Reimagining Government at the National Conference: Norm Ornstein with Loren DeJonge Schulman, Mindy Romero, Soren Dayton and Cecili Wake

In this in-depth panel discussion from the 2025 National Conference, moderator Norm Ornstein of American Enterprise Institute talks to an all-star panel including Loren DeJonge Schulman of the Federation of American Scientists, Mindy Romero from the Center for Inclusive Democracy at USC's Price School, Soren Dayton of Foundation for American Innovation, and Cecili Wake of Democracy 2076. The conversation took on a wide range of topics about how American governance could and should develop over the next half-century. Management Matters is a presentation of the National Academy of Public Administration produced by Lizzie Alwan and Matt Hampton and edited by Matt Hampton. Support the Podcast Today at: donate@napawash.org or 202-347-3190 Episode music: Hope by Mixaund | Music promoted by

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Reimagining Government at the National Conference: Norm Ornstein with Loren DeJonge Schulman, Mindy Romero, Soren Dayton and Cecili Wake is an episode from Management Matters Podcast by National Academy of Public Administration.

This episode is 39:04 long.

This episode was published on Dec 8, 2025.

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