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Leaving MAGA Behind (w/ Pedro L. Gonzalez)

Know Your Enemy by Matthew Sitman

Feb 23, 202601:19:49Society & Culture

When people break with MAGA, most of them walk away and don't look back, whether out of shame or fear or both. So it's a rare thing to talk with someone willing to describe publicly why they joined the Trump movement, wh...

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Leaving MAGA Behind (w/ Pedro L. Gonzalez) is an episode from Know Your Enemy by Matthew Sitman. When people break with MAGA, most of them walk away and don't look back, whether out of shame or fear or both. So it's a rare thing to talk wit...

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Published Feb 23, 2026, 01:19:49 long, audio available.

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When people break with MAGA, most of them walk away and don't look back, whether out of shame or fear or both. So it's a rare thing to talk with someone willing to describe publicly why they joined the Trump movement, what life was like on the inside, and the reasons they left — but it's just such a conversation we have for you today, with writer and former New Right firebrand Pedro L. Gonzalez. Enjoy. Sources: Pedro L. Gonzalez, " The Right Lost the Culture War, and America ," Contra , Feb 16, 2026 — " Trump Demands the Worst of Us ," Contra , Feb 8, 2026 — " Why the New Right Can’t Quit Conspiracy Theories ," Contra , Dec 18, 2025 — " Welcome to Hell ," Contra , Dec 10, 2025 — " Gen Z’s Flight From Trump ," Contra , July 24, 2025 James Burnham, The Machiavellians , (1943) Sam Francis, Beautiful Losers , (1993) Michael Anton, " The Flight 93 Election ," Claremont Review of Books , Sept 5, 2017. Matthew Boyle, " Rising Conservative Influencer Pedro Gonzalez Regularly Espoused Racist and Anti-Semitic Sentiments in Private Messages ," Breitbart , June 27, 2023 ...and don't forget to

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