What's Outside The Simulation w/ Donald Hoffman

Welcome to Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu. In today’s mind-bending episode, Tom sits down with cognitive scientist Donald Hoffman, who challenges everything you think you know about reality, consciousness, and the very fabric of our universe. What if the world around us isn’t the fundamental base of existence, but rather, nothing more than a meticulously rendered simulation—an efficient computational interface, like a high-tech headset, designed to help us survive, not reveal the truth?Together, Tom and Donald dive deep into groundbreaking theories emerging from the frontlines of quantum physics and mathematics, including “positive geometries” and the idea that spacetime is not fundamental. They break down complex scientific concepts—like Markov chains and the hard problem of consciousness—into compelling metaphors drawn from video games, virtual reality, and computation.Throughout the conversation, they grapple with the illusion of free will, the meaning of “base reality,” and whether consciousness is ultimately all there is—hinting at a future where understanding the software outside the headset could make today’s technology look like child’s play. Whether you’re a skeptic, a seeker, or just driven by unending curiosity, you’re in for an episode that could forever shift your perception of what it means to be real. What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business: join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER : SCALING a business: see if you qualify here. : Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox: sign up here. : ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast, Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram: Tik Tok: Twitter: YouTube: Ketone IQ: Visit for 30% OFF your subscription order Quince: Free shipping and 365-day returns at Monetary Metals: Future-proof your wealth at Truemed: Check your eligibility and start saving at AT&T Business: Switch to AT&T Business at business.att.com Incogni: Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code IMPACT at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at Netsuite: Right now, get our free business guide, Demystifying AI, at Quo: Try for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months at Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at .

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This episode was published on May 15, 2026.

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