RZA Pt. 1: One Spoon of Chocolate Changes the Whole Glass of Milk

John welcomes acclaimed rapper, producer, composer, actor, filmmaker, and Wu-Tang Clan prime mover RZA to discuss his new movie “One Spoon of Chocolate,” which opened in theaters across the country last week. In Part One of this special, two-part episode, RZA describes the decade-plus odyssey of the film, which he wrote and directed, from idea to premiere; how the shifting state of race relations in America affected both it and him; and the transition of his career as an artist away from music and towards film. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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RZA Pt. 1: One Spoon of Chocolate Changes the Whole Glass of Milk is an episode from Hell & High Water with John Heilemann by Audacy | Puck.

This episode is 58:19 long.

This episode was published on May 4, 2026.

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