EP 256 Building Pilates Retreats in Europe: Creativity, Logistics, and Expansion with Bessie Refalo

In this episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast , Shannon sits down with Bessie Refalo , a yoga and Pilates retreat leader who is carving out a unique lane in the wellness retreat industry - reformer Pilates retreats in Europe . Bessie shares the behind-the-scenes reality of creating retreats that require specialized equipment, including the challenges of finding venues with reformer Pilates machines and the creative solutions she's used to make her retreats possible. From transporting reformers by lorry in Portugal to discovering bespoke studios in Italy, this conversation is a masterclass in persistence, adaptability, and thinking beyond traditional retreat models. Shannon and Bessie also discuss the rapid growth of the wellness retreat industry, the realities of hosting retreats in Europe, and why networking, flexibility, and on-the-ground familiarity are essential for successful international retreats. This episode is a must-listen for retreat leaders who want to expand internationally, host niche retreats, or navigate complex logistics without giving up on their vision. Key Takeaways Niche retreats (like reformer Pilates) require creativity, persistence, and flexibility. Hosting retreats with specialized equipment presents challenges - but solutions exist. Europe offers strong appeal for US-based retreat guests due to accessibility and travel interest. Building relationships with local studios and partners is key to international retreat success. Logistics, cultural differences, and local business hours matter more than most hosts expect. Networking and in-person learning accelerate retreat growth and confidence. Fully booked retreats are built through clarity, demand, and aligned offerings - not shortcuts. About Bessie Refalo Bessie Refalo is a yoga and Pilates instructor and retreat leader specializing in wellness retreats that combine movement, travel, and intentional experiences. Known for her innovative approach to reformer Pilates retreats, Bessie creates immersive international retreats that prioritize high-quality instruction, thoughtful locations, and meaningful connection. Connect with Bessie here: The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Get your legal docs for retreats Join Shannon in Denver at the Retreat Industry Forum Join our LinkedIn Group Apply to be a guest on our show Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to

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EP 256 Building Pilates Retreats in Europe: Creativity, Logistics, and Expansion with Bessie Refalo is an episode from Happy Hour Podcast with Dee and Shannon by Shannon Jamail.

This episode is 32:07 long.

This episode was published on Jan 29, 2026.

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