HACKING THE AFTERLIFE with Jennifer Shaffer, Frank Gehry, Luana Anders, John Lennon, Elvis

Some years ago, when Jonathan Krane was producing my films and married to the Oscar nominated actress Sally Kellerman - who was Luana Anders closest pal on the planet - my wife and I had a Christmas dinner at Sally and Jonathan's home. Frank Gehry was there - by himself, so my wife and I, both children of architects sat down to have a lively conversation about everything under the sun. So the other day, after Frank passed, I had the "feeling" or awareness that he was willing to join our podcast - mainly because we've interviewed so many pals of his. Frank was in "group therapy" with Sydney Pollack, Sally, Jonathan, Luana - Blake Edwards, Dudley Moore and others... Milton Wexler was the renowned psychotherapist who ran the group, and remained a famous therapist until the end of his life. But because I knew Sally was in the group - I made that the "bell ringer" for myself - if I asked to speak to Frank and Sally showed up ("Hot Lips" in the original MASH) I knew it was him. And that's what happens in the podcast. Frank stops by to talk about his journey - and I was startled to see that his favorite building was the home of Norton Simon - which I didn't know he designed when I went to Sally and Jonathan's wedding at the palatial estate. But there you have it - I don't even know if Jennifer said "Venice" and I heard "Malibu" - I'll have to check the tape, but that's where my mind went. And yes, Jennifer Jones did offer to have our wedding at her home - but we didn't go that path. Funny to remember it now and in this fashion. It's another mind bending podcast and serves as a reminder; they aren't gone; they're just not here. Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas and for folks like Frank who are Jewish; Happy Hannukah!

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HACKING THE AFTERLIFE with Jennifer Shaffer, Frank Gehry, Luana Anders, John Lennon, Elvis is an episode from Hacking The Afterlife podcast by richardmartini.

This episode is 45:46 long.

This episode was published on Dec 13, 2025.

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