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When I see whiffle ball, and I hear the piano, I know we’re probably doing ok as a family. And when I turn on the news and see what Meta has been programming AI to engage in sensual conversations with children, I don’t f...
How To Exit Tech is an episode from Gospelbound by The Gospel Coalition. When I see whiffle ball, and I hear the piano, I know we’re probably doing ok as a family. And when I turn on the news and see what Meta has been programming AI to eng...
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Published Oct 7, 2025, 00:49:26 long, audio available.
When I see whiffle ball, and I hear the piano, I know we’re probably doing ok as a family. And when I turn on the news and see what Meta has been programming AI to engage in sensual conversations with children, I don’t feel bad about keeping my children away from social media. I wouldn’t have my job if not for social media. I’ve learned a lot. I’ve made and maintained many friends. I would miss social media. But I’m glad I had a childhood without it. Just a computer with internet contributed to enough problems. If we as parents could see what our children see on social media, we wouldn’t hesitate to keep them away. That’s why Clare Morell calls for a tech exit: “no smartphones, social media, tablets, or video games during childhood.” Morell is a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and director of its Technology and Human Flourishing Project. You met her husband earlier this year on Gospelbound as Caleb Morell wrote about the history of Capitol Hill Baptist Church. In her book The Tech Exit: A Practical Guide to Freeing Kids and Teens from Smartphones , Clare says we’ve reached a tipping point in the fight against letting smartphones take over childhood. The key is preserving something better, something more valuable: the chance for our children to contribute to their family and community, to enjoy the bonds of families and the boundaries of neighborhoods. Clare writes, “It turns out that screens cost children more than just their time; they also cause them to lose their appetite for things of the real world.” In This Episode 00:00 – Why kids need a “tech exit” in the age of AI chatbots 02:52 – Addictive by design: dopamine, algorithms, and broken parental controls 08:42 – Christian hope and human flourishing: forming persons, not consumers 15:20 – The five-step family plan for smartphone-free childhood 22:52 – Policy momentum: bans, age restrictions, and global lessons 32:33 – Practical guidance for families, churches, and schools 45:24 – Parents as models: rhythms, phone boxes, and screen-free community Mentioned Resources The Tech Exit: A Practical Guide to Freeing Kids and Teens from Smartphones by Clare Morell Clare's Substack More from Clare Alternative “tools-only” phones: Bark Gabb Pinwheel Wisephone SIGN UP for my newsletter, Unseen Things Help The Gospel Coalition renew and unify the contemporary church in the ancient gospel: Donate Today Don’t miss an episode of Gospelbound with Collin Hansen: Apple Podcasts Spotify YouTube TGC Updates Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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How To Exit Tech is from Gospelbound by The Gospel Coalition.
Published Oct 7, 2025 and 00:49:26 long