Defense in Depth: Layered Strategies Against AI Risk (with Li-Lian Ang)

Li-Lian Ang is a team member at Blue Dot Impact. She joins the podcast to discuss how society can build a workforce to protect humanity from AI risks. The conversation covers engineered pandemics, AI-enabled cyber attacks, job loss and disempowerment, and power concentration in firms or AI systems. We also examine Blue Dot's defense-in-depth framework and how individuals can navigate rapid, uncertain AI progress. LINKS: Li-Lian Ang personal site Blue Dot Impact organization site CHAPTERS: (00:00) Episode Preview (00:48) Blue dot beginnings (03:04) Evolving AI risk concerns (06:20) AI agents in cyber (15:52) Gradual disempowerment and jobs (23:26) Aligning AI with humans (29:08) Power concentration and misuse (34:52) Influencing frontier AI labs (43:05) Uncertain timelines and strategy (50:18) Writing, AI, and action PRODUCED BY: SOCIAL LINKS: Website: Twitter (FLI): Twitter (Gus): LinkedIn: YouTube: Apple: Spotify:

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Defense in Depth: Layered Strategies Against AI Risk (with Li-Lian Ang) is an episode from Future of Life Institute Podcast by Gus Docker.

This episode is 55:47 long.

This episode was published on Apr 2, 2026.

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