Interview with Clay Shultz - S4 EP21 - The Self-Preservation Nine In Their Growth Path

Today, Uranio Paes and Beatrice Chestnut talk with Clay Schultz about the growth path of Type 9, especially the self-preservation subtype. In this episode, Clay shares his personal journey of bodily and emotional awakening, showing how Nines can overcome inertia and numbness through presence and conscious action. He speaks about the challenge of leaving behind comfortable routines, facing repressed anger, and reconnecting with his own desire and sense of purpose. Urânio, Bea, and Clay explore how true “peacemaking” requires facing conflict and learning to act from one’s own truth. Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Want to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage ⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass. Please

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Interview with Clay Shultz - S4 EP21 - The Self-Preservation Nine In Their Growth Path is an episode from Enneagram 2.0 with Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes by Chestnut Paes Enneagram Academy.

This episode is 00:53:53 long.

This episode was published on Oct 30, 2025.

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