351: Your Playlist, Your Enneagram, and Your Wisdom with Susan Drumm

In this episode of The Elegant Warrior, Heather welcomes leadership expert Susan Drumm to explore how music, neuroscience, and the Enneagram can transform your leadership and your life. Susan shares her fascinating journey from Harvard Law School to consulting, television, acting, and ultimately leadership development, showing how following intuition and curiosity can lead to extraordinary growth. Together, Heather and Susan dive into practical tools for recognizing patterns, disrupting limiting behaviors, and building new mental "playlists" that support empowerment, confidence, and personal growth. Whether you're a leader, an entrepreneur, or someone looking to level up your self-awareness, this episode provides actionable strategies grounded in research, neuroscience, and Susan's decades of experience. In this episode, you'll learn: How Susan's background in law, consulting, and acting shaped her approach to leadership development The concept of "old playlists" vs. "new playlists" and how music rewires your brain for growth How to identify your belief statements and practice being in an empowered state What the Enneagram reveals about your blind spots, superpowers, and path to growth Tools to apply both music and the Enneagram for leadership, personal development, and team success In this episode: 00:00 Welcome and Susan's journey from Harvard Law to consulting 02:08 Why the "sweatshop" law firm model didn't fit Susan's personality 06:41 Experiences at NBC: Learning the importance of organizational culture 08:42 Pivoting to acting: Developing empathy and mastering the inner critic 11:41 Pattern recognition and the concept behind The Leader's Playlist 13:46 Neuroscience: How music rewires neural pathways and shifts mental states 17:20 Practical steps: Creating your empowered "I am" playlist 21:19 Introduction to the Enneagram: Nine leadership styles and blind spots 24:45 Why accurate assessments matter and the "Enneagram Applied" program 26:21 Breaking down Enneagram Type 3 (The Achiever) and Type 7 (The Visionary) 30:11 Free quiz: Your Leadership, Superpower, and Roadblocks Resources and Links: 📘 The Leaders Playlist by Susan Drumm – Explore music, neuroscience, and leadership. 🎯 Free Quiz: Leadership Superpower & Roadblock Assessment 🌐 Susan Drumm - Website Connect with Heather: Schedule a call with Heather Follow Heather on Instagram Follow Heather on Facebook Connect with Heather on LinkedIn Website Watch Episodes on Youtube Heather's TikTok ‍ heather@elegantwarrior.com The Elegant Warrior Podcast and content posted by Heather Hansen is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast or website is at the user's own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions.

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351: Your Playlist, Your Enneagram, and Your Wisdom with Susan Drumm is an episode from Elegant Warrior Podcast with Heather Hansen by Heather Hansen Presents.

This episode is 31:11 long.

This episode was published on Jan 19, 2026.

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