Why Three is Tor's Magic Number

Many in Silicon Valley, and in U.S. business at large, seem to believe innovation springs only from competition, a race to build the next big thing first, cheaper, better, best. But what if collaboration and community breeds innovation just as well as adversarial competition? Isabela Fernandes believes free, open-source software has helped build the internet, and will be key to improving it for all. As executive director of the Tor Project – the nonprofit behind the decentralized, onion-routing network providing crucial online anonymity to activists and dissidents around the world – she has fought tirelessly for everyone to have private access to an uncensored internet, and Tor has become one of the world's strongest tools for privacy and freedom online. Fernandes joins EFF’s Cindy Cohn and Jason Kelley to discuss the importance of not just accepting technology as it’s given to us, but collaboratively breaking it, tinkering with it, and rebuilding it together until it becomes the technology that we really need to make our world a better place. In this episode you’ll learn about: How the Tor network protects the anonymity of internet users around the world, and why that’s so important Why online privacy is NOT only for “people who have something to hide” The importance of making more websites friendly and accessible to Tor and similar systems How Tor can actually benefit law enforcement How free, open-source software can power economic booms Isabela Fernandes has been executive director of the Tor Project since 2018; she had been a project manager there since 2015. She also has served since 2023 as a board member of both European Digital Rights – an association of civil and human rights organizations aimed at building a people-centered, democratic society – and The Engine Room , a nonprofit that supports social justice movements to use technology and data in safe, responsible and strategic ways, while actively mitigating the vulnerabilities created by digital systems. Earlier, Fernandes worked as a product manager for Twitter ; Latin America project manager for North by South, which offered open-source technology integration to companies using expertise of Latin American free software specialists; as a project manager for Brazil’s President , overseeing migration of the IT department to free software; and as a technical advisor to Brazil’s Ministry of Communications , creating and implementing new features and free-software tools for the National Digital Inclusion Program serving 3,500 communities. She’s a former member of the board of the Calyx Institute , an education and research organization devoted to studying, testing and developing and implementing privacy technology and tools to promote free speech, free expression, civic engagement and privacy rights on the internet and in the mobile telephone industry. And she was a cofounder and longtime volunteer with Indymedia Brazil, an independent journalism collective.

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Why Three is Tor's Magic Number is an episode from EFF's How to Fix the Internet by Electronic Frontier Foundation.

This episode is 00:30:06 long.

This episode was published on Jun 4, 2025.

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