"A Process Girl Living in an Outcomes World"

Sarah Isgur ( X ) is a former spokesperson at the Department of Justice and one of the hosts of the Advisory Opinions podcast. She joins this podcast to discuss her new book Last Branch Standing : A Potentially Surprising, Occasionally Witty Journey Inside Today’s Supreme Court , which is out today. The conversation covers the role of the Supreme Court, the nature of American institutions, and the future of conservatism. Sarah reflects on her experiences in the Trump administration, including touring the Lincoln Bedroom with the president himself, the dynamics of judicial decision-making, and the importance of both principles and process in governance. The discussion closes with thoughts on what has gone wrong on the American right, the Based Ritual , and the link between people’s emotional well-being and the kinds of ideas that they find appealing. Get full access to Center for the Study of Partisanship and Ideology at

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This episode was published on Apr 14, 2026.

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