That Beast Was Not Me An interview with Dr. Jeffrey Smalldon

An interview with Dr. Jeffery Smalldon, author of “That Beast Was Not Me: One Forensic Psychologist, Five Decades of Conversations with Killers” THAT BEAST WAS NOT ME documents five decades of conversations with murderers like John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, serial sniper Thomas Lee Dillon, and Donald Harvey-then thought to be the most prolific serial killer in American history. Through letters, prison visits, and interviews, Smalldon gives readers a terrifying look into the darkest recesses of the human psyche. Get the book here To learn more: Support the show! Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free on Supercast: Patreon: Apple Subscriptions: For one time support: Links to all my socials and more: Sources: 2026 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com Licensing and credits: Theme music by Scott Buckley Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty Hinges Crimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at .

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That Beast Was Not Me An interview with Dr. Jeffrey Smalldon is an episode from Crimelines True Crime by Crimelines True Crime.

This episode is 00:45:06 long.

This episode was published on Jan 28, 2026.

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