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It's Only Drowning (David Litt)

Apr 4, 202637:45Society & Culture

How did an Obama speechwriter find himself getting rolled in the freezing Jersey shore surf? A search for something better, some common ground with a Joe Rogan brother-in-law. He didn't find "common'' ground. But he may...

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It's Only Drowning (David Litt) is an episode from Conflict of Interest by Kevin Ellis. How did an Obama speechwriter find himself getting rolled in the freezing Jersey shore surf? A search for something better, some common ground with a Jo...

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Published Apr 4, 2026, 37:45 long, audio available.

It's Only Drowning (David Litt)

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