304 - Abstraction and Consciousness with Christian Genco

In this episode I talk with Christian Jenko for round two. We explore abstraction as the most important idea in software, Michael Singer's philosophy on consciousness and thoughts, whether AI can become conscious, and how our mental abstractions shape what we see in reality. Links: Designing Object-Oriented Software by Rebecca Wirfs-Brock The Surrender Experiment by Michael A. Singer The Untethered Soul by Michael A. Singer Living Untethered by Michael A. Singer I Am a Strange Loop by Douglas Hofstadter A Thousand Brains by Jeff Hawkins Incognito: The Secret Lives of the Brain by David Eagleman The Emperor's New Mind by Roger Penrose Conjectures and Refutations by Karl Popper Being There: Putting Brain, Body, and World Together Again by Andy Clark On Looking: Eleven Walks with Expert Eyes by Alexandra Horowitz

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304 - Abstraction and Consciousness with Christian Genco is an episode from Code with Jason by Jason Swett.

This episode is 80:28 long.

This episode was published on Jan 14, 2026.

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