Second Breakfast: F-15, Pete's Purges, CENTCOM Hubris, War of 1812

An F-15E is down in southern Iran. Justin, Tony, Eric and I talk through what combat search and rescue actually looks like, how a captured pilot changes the politics of ending this war, and why a hostage makes the "pack up and go home" play functionally impossible. Then: the AWACS that "only" lost a third of itself on a Saudi tarmac, why CENTCOM is still parking high-value aircraft like it's 2003, and what Operation Spiderweb and three years of Ukrainian drone warfare should have taught us but didn't. Plus Pete Hegseth's ongoing purge of the officer corps, the Enron theory of Pentagon innovation, and why the War of 1812 is the best analogy for where this is all heading. Tony's article on CENTCOM sucking: Justin on just war: song: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Second Breakfast: F-15, Pete's Purges, CENTCOM Hubris, War of 1812 is an episode from ChinaTalk by Jordan Schneider.

This episode is 71:09 long.

This episode was published on Apr 3, 2026.

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