The Principle of Pragmatic Idealism, with Björn Holmberg

What are the political and human risks of a world increasingly defined by transactional politics and national interests? Björn Holmberg, executive director of the Dag Hammarskjöld Foundation, joins the "Values & Interests" podcast to discuss the power of pragmatic idealism across international relations, the need to inject morality into the practice of geopolitics without moralizing, and how we can create realistic conditions for greater global cooperation. For more, please go to:

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The Principle of Pragmatic Idealism, with Björn Holmberg is an episode from Carnegie Council Podcasts by Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs.

This episode is 47:57 long.

This episode was published on Nov 20, 2025.

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