The Life-Changing Magic of Fat Swims

You’re listening to Burnt Toast! I’m Virginia Sole-Smith. Today my conversation is with Emma Copley Eisenberg. Emma is the author of the nationally bestselling novel Housemates and the story collection Fat Swim . Her essays, literary criticism and reporting have appeared in The New Republic , Granta , and Esquire among others, and she writes the Substack newsletter Frump Feelings . She lives in Philadelphia. Emma joined me to chat about her new short story collection Fat Swim , fat characters in fiction, what thin authors get wrong, why we’re over Jonathan Franzen and so much more. And become a paid subscriber to get Indulgence Gospel — our new bonus segment, running after every episode! Corinne is going to hop on to debrief this interview with me. We're talking about fat kids in fiction, our Default Outfits and MORE! Paid subscribers all get commenting privileges and a full episode transcript. JOIN US HERE. Photo by Kenzi Crash Become a paid subscriber here , and unlock even more Burnt Toast! Another great way to support Burnt Toast is to MAKE SURE you are following us for free in your podcast player! Can you take two seconds to

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The Life-Changing Magic of Fat Swims is an episode from Burnt Toast by Virginia Sole-Smith by Virginia Sole-Smith.

This episode is 46:18 long.

This episode was published on Apr 30, 2026.

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