Best of Bewildered: All the Way to Heaven is Heaven

In our culture we're socialized to believe that if we suffer enough, we'll be rewarded later—and our reward will be happiness. In other words, happiness is something we have to earn through suffering. On this "Best of" episode of Bewildered, we challenge this cultural belief, inspired by the words of 14th century mystic St. Catherine of Siena who said, "All the way to heaven is heaven." To hear more about this idea—and how you can experience happiness right now—join us for one of our favorite episodes! CONNECT WITH US Follow Martha on Instagram The Bewildered Show Notes Follow Ro on Instagram Follow Bewildered on Instagram

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Best of Bewildered: All the Way to Heaven is Heaven is an episode from Bewildered by Martha Beck and Rowan Mangan.

This episode is 43:16 long.

This episode was published on Jul 9, 2025.

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