BONUS: Criminalized Survivor Sandra Brown on the Criminal Legal System

In this bonus interview, Justine sits down with Sandra Brown, the criminalized survivor who you heard from in Chapter 6. Sandra was recently released from prison, where she worked on rebuilding herself over the course of 21 years, and is now working toward her Ph.D. This conversation has been edited for time and clarity. Resources: If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic abuse, use a safe computer and contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline at or call 1-800-799-7233. You can also search for a local domestic violence shelter at If you have experienced sexual assault and need support, visit the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN) at or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Ask Governor Kathy Hochul to grant Nikki clemency: Have questions about consent? Take a look at this guide from RAINN at Learn more about the Domestic Violence Survivors Justice Act at Learn more about criminalized survival across the U.S. at Read Justine’s Dec. 2020 article on criminalized survival in the U.S. at Support incarcerated survivor Tanisha Williams by visiting Support incarcerated survivor Tomiekia Johnson by visiting Read Sandra Brown’s writing by visiting Learn more about incarcerated survivor Kelly Harnett’s story at Follow the We Stand With Nikki campaign on Instagram at @westandwithnikki, on Twitter at @standwithnikki and on their webpage at Justine van der Leun is the host and lead reporter. This series is produced by Justine van der Leun and supervising producer Kristen Lepore. The associate producer is Giulia Hjort. The production assistant is Rory James Leech. Additional reporting by Kristen Lepore and Giulia Hjort. Mixing and sound design by Kegan Zema. Music by RRA aka Sara Abdelaal. Fact checking by Justin Kloczko. Additional audio engineering by Ivan Kuraev. Story editing by Jackie Danziger. Story consulting by Amy Metsch. The executive producers are Stephanie Wittels Wachs, Jessica Cordova Kramer, and Spiegel & Grau. Believe Her is created in partnership with Spiegel & Grau. Follow them on Twitter and Instagram at @spiegelandgrau. Follow Justine on Twitter at @justinevdl and on Instagram at @jvanderleun. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. If you want to continue the conversation with other listeners, please join our Believe Her podcast community on Bookclubz at and our Facebook group at Interested in bonus content and behind the scenes material?

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This episode was published on Dec 2, 2021.

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