Christopher Frenz on Evidence-Based Security

O'Reilly coauthor of Evidence-Based Security and longtime healthcare CISO Christopher Frenz joins the Nexus podcast to describe his organization's approach to cybersecurity that is rooted in transforming security from an artform to a science. Frenz discusses how this process through how he tests the efficacy of controls in his environment, and how the insights gained from this testing have allowed him to move toward better metrics and a better working relationship with leadership and the board. Listen and

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Christopher Frenz on Evidence-Based Security is an episode from Aperture: A Claroty Podcast by Claroty.

This episode is 29:30 long.

This episode was published on Nov 16, 2025.

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